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windows 10 or 11 users: font testing time :) #1761

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Thorin-Oakenpants opened this issue Nov 6, 2023 · 8 comments
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windows 10 or 11 users: font testing time :) #1761

Thorin-Oakenpants opened this issue Nov 6, 2023 · 8 comments
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@Thorin-Oakenpants
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Thorin-Oakenpants commented Nov 6, 2023 •
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Doesn't matter if you have RFP enabled. Doesn't matter what windows version (win7/8 if you want to). I'm want to compare measurements of fonts in common, but I want several tests (so I can see effects of platform version, zoom, system scaling, maybe graphics drivers. Hopefully you all have ClearType enabled, and default text size settings

test one: 100% zoom on different system scalings (I'll only ask for more tests if needed)

Steps

  • load https://arkenfox.github.io/TZP/tzp.html#fonts
  • open console
  • type isFontSizesMore = true and hit enter
  • make sure page is at 100% zoom
  • click [re-run] for the font section
  • click font sizes details
    • details
  • click copy
    • copy
  • paste results here
  • provide OS major version (e.g. 7, 8, 10, 11) and system scaling info. If you're not sure of your system scaling, it will be windows settings > display > scale or something similar

helps to use this format, but if not, I can clean it up

<details><summary>json details</summary><p>

```json
paste in here
```

</p></details>

hopefully most people are the same sizes (per fonts in common) at each system scaling
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windows 11, 100% system scaling: hash: a3ffb6b9 (RFP on)

json details

DOCUMENT: fontsizes: a3ffb6b9
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  },
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  },
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    "serif": [974.5, 626]
  },
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  },
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  },
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  },
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  },
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  },
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    "sans-serif": [854, 614.4],
    "serif": [854, 614.4]
  }
}

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g-2-s commented Nov 6, 2023 •
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Damn, I ran the test while using FF ESR, sorry for the confusion.
Here's FF 119:
Windows 10, 100% system scaling, hash: 3ebd6934 (RFP on)

json details

DOCUMENT: fontsizes: 3ebd6934
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that's awesome - very few diffs: this is not checking for differences in font versions e.g. character support). IDK why this is, so some more tests from others would be cool

@g-2-s - what font version is your Sitka Banner? C:\Windows\Fonts, double click Sitka then double click Sitka Banner (mine is version 2.0) - TIA

RFP windows font sizes diffs

rfp win diffs

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All the Sitka fonts are version 1.12 on my machine.

The previous results are from my second, external monitor which I use as primary one: 1920 x 1080, 100% scaling.
I ran the test again but this time using the actual laptop monitor, still 1920 x 1080 but on this monitor Windows defaults the scaling to 125%. Here:

Windows 10, 125% system scaling, hash: af8c69f0 (RFP on)

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This is promising - re only a few fonts and it was the version that changed. BTW I am testing in Nightly, so it could be something else. Also I am en-US language (different locales might fuck with default sizes, line-heights etc

we already know font versions (if that is the cause) can have entropy, so I'm more interested in the fact everything else was the same :)

to 125%. Here

cool. this was another test that is useful. Seeing if our system scaling also matches

Windows 11, 125% system scaling, hash: 9ee4e5b5 (RFP on)

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}

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here's our 125% system scaling diffs - same result re what values changed

RFP windows font sizes diffs 125% system scaling

win font size diffs 125

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Thorin-Oakenpants commented Nov 7, 2023 •
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actually, I might have fucked up there - my diff was configured to only show certain things

edit: nah, it was right :)

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ok, I think I have what I need, for now.

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